Showing posts with label Galleys. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Galleys. Show all posts

Sunday, January 24, 2016

Garden of Kama - Khmer Galleys update


Khmer galley...


...with rowers seats removed.


...with side wicker protection for rowers.


Another view.


And again.


Reverse the seating to get a Tsolyáni River Galley.
(The stern is now the prow!)

A tiny bit of progress this last week. In the first instance I sent the basic galley prototype to a fellow Petal Head who has access to a 3D scanner. Perhaps this will result in a scanned file that will allow me to side-step my resin supplier who is turning out to be a real bottleneck, unfortunately. I just cannot get a reliable supply of product. Fingers crossed!

The other bit of news is while studying the model again I realized that by reversing the rowers seating and turning the vessel around the resulting look is very much like other small craft designs in the region - Burma, for example, where the stern post tends to be very tall. The prow of the prototype is quite bulky, mainly because it is intended to be cut away and replaced by a Naga-head carving. So a proper Burmese galley would probably need the stern cut down a bit. I haven't really pursued this as it occurred to me that I could make my Tsolyáni River Galley variants by using this reversed seating. I just need to determine what form of decoration the bow and stern posts should have.

The final step forward was with the wicker side panels that the Khmer galleys had to provide some minimal protection for the rowers. I have explored many construction methods and debated resin vs metal castings or perhaps even 3D-printed panels. 

A few years ago, a friend of mine in North Bay found a suitable material in the form of shelving liners. Until now I have always looked at it from the point of view of using it as a master to somehow be molded to make a final product. But always there were difficulties. It needs to be flexible to fit the curve of the hull and then there was the question of how to do the supports. And should there be top and/or bottom rails? Last week, however, I finally decided to just use the shelf liner "as is". Its not like I am likely to sell hundreds of these things anyway, if the last five years are anything to go by!

The top two pictures show the basic Khmer galley prototype. It is 12" long and will have a crew of twenty oarsmen and a steersman. And perhaps a captain and one or two others. The second picture shows the rowers seats removed. The rower figures will be cut of below the knee and face backwards as is normal for a galley. Their oars, however, are much shorter than those of the typical Greek or Roman galley we are used to seeing.

The middle three pictures show the cut strips of shelf liner. In addition to being flexible, many of the liners come in nice bright woven patterns which would be difficult to paint. I don't think anybody actually knows what they would look like. The knowledge comes mostly from stone carvings after all. So they could be plain wicker panels or they could be in various patterns. Mine will be in whatever patterns and colours the local dollar stores can provide! :-)

The last picture shows the Tsolyáni variant with reversed seating so that the stern is now the prow. I just have to decide what other changes - if any - are required.

Comments and suggestions welcome! :-)

Sunday, April 14, 2013

K is for the Garden of Kama


All work on the Garden seems to have ground to a halt. I am waiting...waiting for resin hulls of the galleys and canoes to send to sculptors; waiting for those with sculptors to get worked on; waiting for Mara to be cast up and mailed to me, waiting for the first figures to be sculpted (they are in the queue), waiting, waiting, waiting... *sigh* ;-)


Tuesday, March 26, 2013

Galley Seating...



...is better than coach! Well, maybe not so much. :-)

Anyhow, I made a tiny bit of progress today, finishing the benches and gangway for the Khmer galleys. There will be ten oarsmen down each side. This will be molded and cast in resin and included with each galley. The figures will be sculpted sitting, cut-off just below the knees.

There are meant to be wicker screens that provide some small bit of protection (see my previous blog entry) but I haven't figured out exactly how to make those yet. Per the last entry I have some strips of styrene that I hope to weave together to make the wickerwork. It seems likely to be very fiddly and I'm still working out how exactly to approach it. When they are done - if I can do it - they will also be cast in resin by JTFM. They will be very fine, but JTFM specializes in super-fine detail! :-)

Here is one last picture, showing one of our Swamp Folk standing on the gangway...




Tuesday, March 12, 2013

28mm Wicker Work




The Khmer galleys had a wicker screen that shielded the rowers and I have been agonizing over what to do about it. Tony made a version but I think I want something finer. Today I picked up some .25mm x .5mm stripstryene by Evergreen Scale Models and I'm going to try and weave a screen. My thinking is if I do a panel I can get it molded and then either stick a bunch of the moldings together to make one long screen or just have them so that several are used on each side of the boat.

Sounds easy, eh?

Sunday, December 16, 2012

Canoe WIP


Canoe Prow - WIP

Andrew sent me this work in progress picture of the prow of one of the war canoes. Some progress at last...Yay! :-)

Unfortunately the paddlers and fighting crew, and the crews for the galleys, are pushed back. The unfortunate negative side-effects of Kickstarter... :-(


Tuesday, August 21, 2012

More progress on the galleys...

Just a small update: today I learned that 1) Andrew has received the Galleys and War Canoes I sent him and will be fitting them into his schedule, and 2) Jeff has mailed out additional copies to go to sculptors to have crews done.

Friday, August 17, 2012

Crews...

So the galley and war canoe are on their way to the UK to be customized.

I've asked for additional copies to send to a sculptor to get the crews started on.

Also, currently looking into the possibility of doing other variants some time down the road. In particular: Dong Son (bronze age Vietnamese, essentially)


Of course, we need to translate this into some concept art first!

Thursday, August 9, 2012

War Galleys and Canoes...some progress!



Khmer War Galley (top) and Canoe (bottom) - cast by JTFM

Jeff Trnka of JTFM sent me these pictures today of the Khmer War Galley and War Canoe models. He has cut the prow and stern off about five of the plain versions. The bits will be sent to Andrew May in the UK for him to add some funky Khmer detailing similar to the examples below:





The idea is that the prows, body and stern will all be interchangeable to allow for maximum customization. Once that is done, I'll start thinking about crews. These are intended for the Garden of Kama setting so there will be Kamjola (Khmer), Champakou (Cham) and the Amazon nations of Ologog and Aoa.

The galleys were sculpted by Tony Harwood. The galley is about 12" long, and the canoe about 8".

Oh, yeah, almost forgot - the Mara are going off for molding and casting tomorrow. :-)

Sunday, April 1, 2012

New Galley Pic...


Finished Galley, by Tony Harwood

The finished basic galley with a figure for scale. This will be cast in resin before the bow and stern posts are cut in order to make the whole thing modular. The bits will then be sent to one of sculptors to get the various carvings done. In addition to the plain variants, the plan is for 2 different bow, stern and hull pieces. Some examples can be seen in previous posts: here and here.

The crew will consist of a steersman sitting on a chair in the stern, ten oarsmen down each side, a captain and some fighting crew. There will be Khmer, Cham and Amazon (Aoan and Ologogi) variants for the crew. Note that the oars will be relatively short compared to the longer oars found on the more familiar Greek galley.

Thursday, March 22, 2012

Galley Pics




Scans from the "Armies of Angkor" book, used as a basis for the galleys. There are other illustrations, but I am just uploading these as an example.



Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Galley - almost done...




Basic Khmer War Galley, by Tony Harwood

Here are some not-quite-finished pics of the basic war galley. There is some rattan wickerwork that runs down each side, offering the oarsman a little bit of protection, that still needs to be added. This will be a separate piece on the model.

The plan is to send this off to be cast in resin. The prow and stern posts will be cut and made so they slot together to allow for modularization. There will be a couple of versions of the hull, which often had Makara heads carved at the front; of the prow, which featured various Naga or Garuda heads; and the stern which was often fashioned into a Naga tail.

Monday, March 12, 2012

Khmer Galley WIP...


Crafted by Tony Harwood

Tony sent me a few WIP pics, including the one shown above. The stern is upper left, the prow lower right. There are going to be a few modifications but this is the basic look. It is just under 12" long.

Pretty Sweet, eh?

Monday, March 5, 2012

Khmer Galleys...


Khmer and Cham Galleys


And Again...





WIP pics of a basic galley, by Tony Harwood

Inspired by the drawings of the Khmer navies in The Armies of Angkor, I've commissioned Tony to make some models for the Garden of Kama setting. The intent is that the prow and stern pieces should be modular in order that a variety of designs can be used. The carved prows typically feature Naga, Makara and Garuda head designs. The galleys are going to be about 300 mm long by 46 mm wide. The figurehead is going to be slightly taller than they probably were historically, but that is OK as the Garden in primarily a fantasy setting anyway.

In addition to the galleys I am planning on getting some slightly smaller war canoes made as well.

It should be noted that while the artists impressions shown above are great for action, their depiction of the vessels is a little off. For one thing, they are too high out of the water - especially in the first painting - and they are not quite wide enough either. The galleys were apparently carved from a single log but then the sides were spread wide apart. A row of oarsmen with fairly short oars ran down each side; their only protection being a sort of wicker fence. The galleys were large enogh for warriors to stand in the prow and between the oarsmen. In the stern sat a single steersman.